1.1

[POMF106]

whats the best bhp anyones had out of one?

people have told me its pointless working on a 1.1 8v. but in a straight drag with my mates 1.2 16v 2006 corsa, mine pulls straight off and stays in front :)

[lukeyboy 106]

gina-g , 1.1 turbo . there was a thread on here a whi;le back saying my gti couldnt get away from a quicky. turned out to be a 150 bhp turbo'd 1.1 in a quicky body lol.

[Gina_G]

1.1 is dead no point doing anything other than transferable breathing mods if an engine swap is on the cards. Best bet strip it, pm jonny-r he has 106 1.1 same as you with mods if yours is a multi point injection engine.

[unreal]

wel tbh mate we all start out wanting to make it go faster but the bigger 16valver n quiky boys r right ots best to save up and get the bigger engine. i have a raceland on mine with green filter and it make 75bhp so u can increase a lil wid breathing mods, but lke gina g said breathing mods and stripping is the only reall way of improving it anymore and u mightaswel get a gti

[peugeot/citroen mutant]

dont listen to these people!!

the tu engine is a good one in my opinion. no wonder you blew off your mate. in his shite overweight corsa. a 1.1 8v can be just as strong as a 1.4 8v. it could run all day long at 100 bhp,which is as powerfull a 1.4 as you could get (1.4 ax gti).

say 100 bhp lightweight 1.1 is gonna be fun lol

dont go the easi route! eiter supercharge/turbocharge or go NOS or do something but it is doable for not a lot of money.

i would turbo it using a carb of say a metro turbo, an intercooler of a renault 5 turbo and a turbo off a starlet bolted up to the standard exhaust manifold by way of an adapter plate.

you can look into management once you get the basics running.

the metro carb has a rising rate fuel pressure regulator. this should be a good simple way to start off with for fuelling. just make it fit a vtr inlet or make your own inlet

[titch]

Turbo 1.1 runs about 130bhp, not 100bhp, Gina G's old engine is proof of this. ;) So no point telling him not to listen to 'em, Gina G has already been there and done it. :)

[peugeot/citroen mutant]

100 is a good starting point to aim for on a budget. and like i said theres loads of room for development.

and i meant dont listen to people saying"1.1 is dead" ok

i stand by my comments lol

[peugeot/citroen mutant]

a 1.1 turbo is individual and cool in its own right.

theres often no need for more cc's especially in 106'saxo's,ax

[POMF106]

haha yeah dont think im goin down the turbo route, too expensive init. jus doing breathing mods should make it quick cus its not "slow" now

[Robert XIII]

I'd be happy with a 100bhp 1.1
i think turbo is the only way to go for massive amounts of difference.

An aside,
With the tax going up loads is that going to mean that turboing smaller engines becomes more viable and a more of a popular way to go than just putting in a gti lump?

Unreal, are you really getting 75hp from just an induction kit?
was it a noticeable difference?

[Gina_G]

check my new project new 1.1 turbo lol! nice more power thjis tiome

[unreal]

I'd be happy with a 100bhp 1.1
i think turbo is the only way to go for massive amounts of difference.

An aside,
With the tax going up loads is that going to mean that turboing smaller engines becomes more viable and a more of a popular way to go than just putting in a gti lump?

Unreal, are you really getting 75hp from just an induction kit?
was it a noticeable difference?


yer mate i am its more top end poke n mid range punch tbh, plus the nice noise!

[Gina_G]

Turbo 1.1 runs about 130bhp, not 100bhp, Gina G's old engine is proof of this. ;) So no point telling him not to listen to 'em, Gina G has already been there and done it. :)

titch man be right, hopefully this new one this time will be alot more stable and faster.

[peugeot/citroen mutant]

theres no way your gettin 1.4 power from a 1.1 from a bloody air filter change of sorts.

the rolling road must have been way off that day im afraid

[peugeot/citroen mutant]

thats unreal lol lol

[italianstallionluca]

75 bhp form just an induction kit? well then im on 95 bhp from an induction and an exhaust :D

[peugeot/citroen mutant]

did it pull 130 bhp the first time you plumbed it in and fired her up? or did it take you a while to get to that figure?

this guy titch is trying to be smart over the sake of 100 bhp, 130 bhp ???

twat

[titch]

LOL, either way, whether im a twat or not, Gina G's car proves that a 1.1 with a turbo can easily run 130bhp.

[lukeyboy 106]

^^ until it blows up lol.

[Boyes]

Unreal's car has an Air filter, manifold and exhaust iirc

[peugeot/citroen mutant]

Yeah fair enough titch.

im sure your not really a twat lol

[peugeot/citroen mutant]

sorry then.

i thought he said he just had green cotton.

didnt no raceland was a exhaust manifold

is he still running a cat?

[Gina_G]

was actually relaible until i turned the boost up to a stupidly high level then it blew up luke lol!

Titch I think this time with everything properly mapped up run a bar I should see a more consistent 140bhp unblike last time, turbo was pretty much going to die on that one.

Going to be reliable this time I reckon aswell with all things learnt from the first and 2nd setups

[sje00]

100bhp with no turbo or suercharger?? you been smoking something????

the standard 1.1 is what? 60bhp, yea its fairly nippy compared to other 1.2's and some 1.4s.

but with a filter and full exhaust decat and manifold, i doubt you'll see much over 65bhp. lets be realistic people. you get next to nothing froma filter, next to nothing from a back box.

it will feel more repsonsive but i doubt you'll even have much more than 1bhp.

on the quiky if ya remove the induction kit with the tapered part you may see bit of a better gain but still the quiky isn't really that quick. i had one!

best off saving for something better looking and better engine.

to get a quiky to 100bhp i reckon it'll cost £700+

i like the 1.1 turbo nice one, thats almost unique lol sorry i know someone else who done it and got similar results. lol

[Gina_G]

getting a quiksilver to 100bhp is possibly the easiest thing to do and wouldnt cost more than £400 if you know what parts to use all OE pug stuff aswell!

IN regards to 1.1 turbo, been there done that I think? first setup was ok for DIY but to much boost killed that one off lol!! new kit should easily see better results

[unreal]

theres no way your gettin 1.4 power from a 1.1 from a bloody air filter change of sorts.

the rolling road must have been way off that day im afraid

thats unreal lol lol

Unreal's car has an Air filter, manifold and exhaust iirc

sorry then.

i thought he said he just had green cotton.

didnt no raceland was a exhaust manifold

is he still running a cat?

i dont have an exhaust and manifold just the raceland induction and green cotton filter n it makes 75bhp at the fly heres the power graph. i was suprised myself but theres the proof


http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z210/unreal12345/powerplot.jpg

[sje00]

i refuse to believe you got 75 from just those mods. the rolling road must be out.

what are these parts for a 100bhp quiky engine???

max power on a 1.1 comes in at 5500rpm not just over 5000rpm. thats another reason i say its wrong.

[Gina_G]

pretty much proven you run a complete 1.3 S1 top end complete with uprated FPR and injectors with the S1 ecu on the 1.4 alloy block quiksivler bottom end you will get 120bhp. Rallyesax from ssc proved this well over a year ago. Also danswhiterocket stuck a 1.4 bottom end on his S1 pretty much same conclusion.

My old one made 109bhp but using xsi parts, xsi parts are cheap and get a complete s1 enigne with loom ecu etc for what £250 these days? add the usual HG set ontop etc no more than £400 if you do it yourself.

Aldon is a pretty well respected company dunno what type of rollers they use tho

[Stevo_106]

doesnt the 55 next to the 75 mean 55bhp to the wheels?

[sje00]

right with these parts, is it still a 1.1 or has the cc changed?

[italianstallionluca]

ye ^^ just looked at it properly. 55 bhp at the wheels right? aint a 1.1 60 bhp standard??

[sje00]

60bhp standard at the fly.

[Gina_G]

what we talking abut? I was going on the assumption you was talking about the 1.4 in the quiksilver.

[Stevo_106]

were talking bout the bhp graph he shows us for his 1.1, the 60 standard is at the fly wheel, so probs aout 40-45 to the wheels standard but id deffo take yours somewere were they have have the rollers recalibrated coz 15 bhp from breathing mods, on a 1.1 is unreal lol

[POMF106]

100bhp with no turbo or suercharger?? you been smoking something????

the standard 1.1 is what? 60bhp, yea its fairly nippy compared to other 1.2's and some 1.4s.

but with a filter and full exhaust decat and manifold, i doubt you'll see much over 65bhp. lets be realistic people. you get next to nothing froma filter, next to nothing from a back box.

it will feel more repsonsive but i doubt you'll even have much more than 1bhp.

on the quiky if ya remove the induction kit with the tapered part you may see bit of a better gain but still the quiky isn't really that quick. i had one!

best off saving for something better looking and better engine.

to get a quiky to 100bhp i reckon it'll cost £700+

i like the 1.1 turbo nice one, thats almost unique lol sorry i know someone else who done it and got similar results. lol


the induction kit on the 1.1 is the same as the quiksilver so has a restrictor to! so ye you wud see a small gain from that. plus all he other breathing mods you wud get 75bhp, but not jus with induction kit

[italianstallionluca]

i thought a manifold,decat,exhaust system and induction would see 75bhp providing its decent stuff and the engine is in good condition.

[titch]

^^ until it blows up lol.
Shhhh. :p
Yeah fair enough titch.

im sure your not really a twat lol
Nah, I probably am, LOL.
was actually relaible until i turned the boost up to a stupidly high level then it blew up luke lol!

Titch I think this time with everything properly mapped up run a bar I should see a more consistent 140bhp unblike last time, turbo was pretty much going to die on that one.

Going to be reliable this time I reckon aswell with all things learnt from the first and 2nd setups
Haha, noice, dont forget to get it RR'd when you do it though, so you can actually prove to people that its a 140bhp 1.1 ;)

[sje00]

even with a full induction kit and full exhaust system with decat and mani you won't see much, i doubt you'll even get to 70 bhp if you added a cam too.

[POMF106]

75 is about what youd get from manifold,decat,induction,and exhaust.

de-catting the car alone can add 2-5bhp
lets say induction kit (taking off restrictor) adds 3bhp
full exhaust- 3bhp
manifold- 4bhp

(thats only rough) but you get the point, these mods can make 75bhp from 60bhp. and yeah a cam might get 70bhp, without any breathing mods!

[ATFoxy 106]

my m8 is running a 1.1 with pugsport.raceland mani. green cotton filter, made 86bhp at TEG dyno (TEG are the guys winning the brittsh championship in th subarus sponsord by stobbart)

[unreal]

thank u atfoxy i will take it somwere else as the rollers may be out but ffs i was just answering the lads question as to how mcuh bhp u cud get from a 1.1! i also cant beleive it myself i drvie the fuking thing so i will get it checked out!