Lower at the front than rear??

[Quiksilver_TR]

Right I have got some 35mm lowering springs off a VTS that I am going to lower my car with.

Was going to match the rear beam to but its pretty solid in and it has been sat in its current position for 9years so changing it now could naker it!

Anyway I took some measurements off the car and the distance between arch and tyre front and rear.

modeled these views up at work to see what it might sit like with just the front done with what the spring might do in the quiky.

Front on left of view, rear on right.
Not Lowered
Arch – Wheel: F 80mm R 60mm
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/Quiksilver_TR/lowering1.jpg

40mm Lowered @ Front
Arch – Wheel: F 40mm R 60mm
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/Quiksilver_TR/lowering.jpg

35mm (spring Height) Lowered @ Front
Arch – Wheel: F 45mm R 60mm
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/Quiksilver_TR/lowering3.jpg

30mm Lowered @ Front
Arch – Wheel: F 50mm R 60mm
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/Quiksilver_TR/lowering35.jpg

Any ideas what it might handle like though??

[dean191]

Ideally you need the front a touch lower then the rear. The front higher than the rear will just give you a bit much understeer. Not too much of a problem with a little 1400 though.

[Fuzzy Orange]

No no no no no - dont go on arch measurements - the rear arch is lower than the front arch

You go off sideskirt from floor measurements - back should be 15mm higher than the front

Fitting those springs leaving the front loads lower than the back and it will oversteer like a bitch

Get it up to rickyp in leeds mate - he'll lower it - he did nicks rallye and that was the worst seized beam that i've ever seen!

You could probably crash with aidy or someone up that way and get it done over a weekend

[dean191]

There's no such thing as a torsion bar that won't come out. Not since man invented fire. I like to put a big rachet strap round the arms to hold them together then you can beat on it all day.

[Quiksilver_TR]

No no no no no - dont go on arch measurements - the rear arch is lower than the front arch

You go off sideskirt from floor measurements - back should be 15mm higher than the front

Fitting those springs leaving the front loads lower than the back and it will oversteer like a bitch

Get it up to rickyp in leeds mate - he'll lower it - he did nicks rallye and that was the worst seized beam that i've ever seen!

You could probably crash with aidy or someone up that way and get it done over a weekend

Should probably go and remaeasure from the skirts then.

Cheers. If they are massivley different then I will have to reconsider.
It does sit up at the front quite a bit though, like I have 150mm front from sill to road and 130ishmm on the rear

Will have to go and check.

Cheers



There's no such thing as a torsion bar that won't come out. Not since man invented fire. I like to put a big rachet strap round the arms to hold them together then you can beat on it all day.

One way to knacker an anchient beam! LOL!

Heat didnt seem to help!

[Fuzzy Orange]

^^ That is genius! Stops the arm coming off the beam

I've also got the end of an old torsion bar that I put against it before hitting it with a sledge hammer - stops you knackering the threads :)

[Fuzzy Orange]

Thats weird - the front shouldnt be higher than the back when measured from the skirting - unless the beam is already lowered

Measure from the front and back corner of the side skirt - to the floor mate

I'll be able to tell better then ;)

[dean191]

Jacking point is the gospel, on an ax anyway. Do 106s have the same sort of jacking points? Big thick lump of steel welded to the sill? Cheers Fuzzy, been called alot of things but never a genius! Suppose i am quite clever..........

[Fuzzy Orange]

They do have jacking points

Thats generally the same advice - 15mm higher rear jack point than front - perfect cornering balance

Ive done so many rear beams and swore when the arm starts coming off the beam - wish I'd thought of strapping them together :)